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I have some questions about Plato, holler if you can help me out.

@Cyborgneticz Plato was a dumbass and deserved to get bigtimed by Aristotle amongst medieval scholars.

@nee When Plato talks about the city-soul connection - what part of the city accounts for the appetitive and spirited portions of the soul?

@Cyborgneticz
you mean if philosophers stand for reason, which group, then, stands for spirit and which for desire? I think 'the people' in broader sense stand for desire/appetitive/the libidinal. And the spirit comes up in a regulatory capacity towards the libidinal, so the executive power, the police in a sense.

@nee okay so philosophers and potential guardians act as reason then the general populace are the other aspects of the soul which must be controlled by the reasonable aspect of the city which is separate?

@Cyborgneticz
So in Plato's sense of the ideal city, the spirited (in the sense of strength/prone to anger/action/activity/executive/protective) work together with the reasonable, to benevolently rule over raw desire (the people). Less ideal are the cases where the θυμοειδές-spirited joins up with desire instead of reason. Stanford encyclopedia of philosophy is less helpful with this than I would have thought.

@nee Would that be the military aspect of the city?
Yeah I looked at the encyclopedia and was dismayed. Usually they are nice for a prep before going into a text.

@Cyborgneticz
That would depend on the questions. I don't think anyone (except absolute Plato-experts) can decide whether or not to holler without knowing a bit more. Care to elabourate?

@Cyborgneticz
Oh yeah, now I can see the rest of the thread, too. Sorry, it's the curse of small instances. Glad you found help.

@hirnbloggade I feel that. It's nice to have a response to my advisor And better notes for comps

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