🍍 Academic publishing is massively profitable
🍍 There is a shortage of stable long-term academic jobs
🍍 Most academic journal editors are unpaid volunteers
🍍 Editors are mostly people who are already professors or have another stable long-term job, and this just helps them to advance their career
🍍 Everyone has a story about how a journal editor dropped the ball and something bad happened to their paper

What if we—stay with me now—turned "Journal Editor" into a legit, paid, stable career path?

@bgcarlisle I think some of the Nature journals have full-time paid editors, because an editor for Nature: Human Behavior was interviewed on the Everything Hertz podcast recently.

If Nature are doing it, might others consider doing that?

@marcjones Yeah there are exceptions

I should start getting numbers on how common and if it's discipline specific

@bgcarlisle @marcjones that.. sounds like an interesting meta paper to me ;)

@bgcarlisle couldn't agree more. But how can this scenario be reverted? I've tried many times, but haven't reached any convincing idea. Yet.

@bgcarlisle but seriously... what's next? How can we change such a vast and powerful system? Signing DORA?

@ccamara I think that collective bargaining based on a legitimate threat of withdrawn peer-review support is the way forward

@bgcarlisle Not sure of having understood. Could you please elaborate?

@ccamara Like, an actual union

Getting enough people who do peer review/submit academic manuscripts/volunteer to do editorial work together

And negotiating with the owners of academic journals for standards and compensation

Using the threat of the collective withdrawal of peer-review support as leverage

@bgcarlisle With the terrible gossip I've been hearing from lesser institutions (like "peer reviewed" articles where peers are also the authors or reviewers suggesting irrelevant ciations of themselves to boost their careers), it'd possibly be a great improvement to separate the reviewing folk from the authoring folk.

There are potential negatives tho like it'd become harder to anonymise reviewers and a permanent set of reviewers could cause some ideas to ossify and hinder novel approaches.

@cadadr If it's done right

Unionizing all this stuff and establishing standards that are actually enforced might help with these problems

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