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harikesh @harikesh

Are there present or past examples to prove that a
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society can be stable over a long period of time ?

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Matthew Brown @mbbrown

@harikesh Define anarchist and long period.

Strictly speaking, aren't hunter-gather societies anarchistic? Those lasted for thousands of years.

As for agricultural/industrial, the closest I can think of is Catalonia during the Spanish Civil War. Of course, they lost that war. So there's no way to know how long they could have lasted.

Sciurus Opulens @sciurus

@mbbrown @harikesh it's an interesting question in how essentially autonomous hunter-gatherers became subject to rulers. I suspect this has to do with the ability to accumulate wealth that came with grain storage and sedentism, and the political skill to translate wealth into power.

harikesh @harikesh

@sciurus

@mbbrown
Interesting point! It is interesting to note that the systems which came after the hunter gatherer system were relatively unstable and short lived? Meaning that the process we see today is just a small unstable perturbation from equilibrium ?

Matthew Brown @mbbrown

@harikesh @sciurus I'm not sure what you mean by 'unstable and short-lived.' Early agricultural civilizations include a number of very long-lived cultures. As just one example, ancient Egypt lasted for several thousand years.

harikesh @harikesh

@mbbrown

@sciurus
'Relative' to hunter gatherer systems these were short. Or is it not?
Is it because of limitations of resources or something else?

hyperlingg @hyperlingg

@harikesh

@mbbrown is right - the question is not exactly well-formulated ... another point : an example doesn't prove anything to be true - logically speaking (this is scholar.social 😀 )

harikesh @harikesh

@hyperlingg

An example doesn't prove anything..but right now that is way I know to understand stuff lah :) ..observe examples- make hypothesis - test - modify.

Jonne Arjoranta @jaranta

@harikesh You might get more out of your anarchism toots on a instance focused on those topics, like anticapitalism.party.

Emerican Johnson @emerican@mastodon.social

@harikesh Marx pointed to early Christians, I believe they were pretty well-documented as being socialist. Also there are still thousands of anarchist societies that refuse to participate in submitting to states:

news.infoshop.org/asia/the-art

Bruce Tindall @BruceTindall

@harikesh
Depending on how far you accept the historicity of the ancient Hebrew society described in the Book of Judges, there may have been something sort of anarchistic from the 14th to 11th century BCE -- until the Hebrews (according to the biblican account) said "Hey, everybody else has a king, we want a king!" and God said "Monarchy, bad idea, dudes," and the people said "wanna wanna wanna," and God said "OK but don't say I didn't warn you." Then hijinks ensued.

Bruce Tindall @BruceTindall

@harikesh Also, there are the societies (a good deal more historically verifiable) described in James C. Scott's book "The Art of Not Being Governed: An Anarchist History of Upland Southeast Asia" (Yale, 2010).

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