RT @firstname.lastname@example.org Quitting Facebook lets Google and Twitter off the hook. It lets AT&T off the hook. It lets Comcast off the hook. And it does nothing to hurt Facebook. Facebook does not care about one among 2.2 billion users. Act as a citizen, not a Facebook user. Demand regulation.
I honestly think all of these arguments come from people who for some reason can't bring themselves to leave Facebook. Yes, large structural change is needed, but you should also close your account. The site has one purpose: collect and sell your data and show you ads. That's it.
Most importantly, stop putting institutional events on Facebook, stop using it at universities, stop making participation in Facebook mandatory through your institutional, organization, and activist roles. You can be online, and social, and connected without supporting Facebook.
"Facebook is, to put the matter bluntly, a deeply untransparent, out-of-control company that encroaches on its users’ privacy, resists regulatory oversight and fails to police known bad actors when they abuse its platform." https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/03/21/its-time-to-break-up-facebook-217665
"One alternative platform" nope. You run into the same problems as facebook does. Bundling a billion people into one big platform doesn't work without making a lot of money either as donation or any other way. Federation works because you have communities and enthusiasts who are willing to spend $30-50 per month for a server which can handle a few thousand users. We also solve the different privacy laws per country problem with federation :)
@omanreagan they have a thing called workplace that is £3 a month and used for work. my boss loves it and has just moved everyone to it.
they say as you're paying you are incontrol of the data, I don't believe it and will be using it as little as possible
Media network need critical mass. Until then, you will basically be alone, and it will be under-developed in terms of features .. because there are no users to ask / test them, an too few contributors.
So at some point, we - the nerdy people - must take the lead on adoption and say "yes, we gonna build or pick a thing, and join it and bring life in it, until the critical mass is there"...
who get together in different combinations and different public venues to make music for people (for free, donations cheerfully accepted)
We need a private and secure place to discuss and plan gigs, share info, music, pictures, video among ourselves, without endangering anyone's privacy/employability, no matter how stuck up their boss/corporation, plus a public face.
@omanreagan @angristan I agree but trying to get ppl to change when they don't feel like anything bad has personally happened to them is difficult. Idealogy alone will not compel enough people to change. Some bad experience with Facebook will. That's from my experience trying to get people off of it anyway.
@omanreagan I'm a librarian at a university library. Frustratingly the library is trying to increase it's use of social media to connect with students because "that's where they are". They have recently added Instagram to compliment existing FB and Twitter. The uni itself and many depts have their own FB or other social media sites. However, moodle is the learning management system and the uni's website is still it's main platform. Social media is still just a sideshow for now.
@whvholst @omanreagan so, ownCloud used to have a way to publicly share calendars. Then they removed it. I implemented it again, plus a way to link-share individual events, but my pull request never got merged, and so it lives in limbo: https://github.com/rysiekpl/calendar
@nextcloud does not seem to have that functionality either, sadly.