@scisus i've always wondered about the ecological discussion around "invasive" species originating from asia and of that mirrored rhetoric around policies such as the chinese exclusion act; i'll do some digging when i'm back at a computer
@wbtd This isn't for a research project - my lab works on "assisted gene flow" in forests and I want to have a conversation about making sure we don't let the language we use to talk about our science be co-opted by the worst kinds of politics.
@wbtd I'm in Vancouver! My lab does a lot of work around assisted gene flow and migration in locally adapted forest tree species and there's a lot of controversy and unknowns around it. Like if you move a species north of its range to help it survive climate change, will it become "invasive"? Should we help forests move at all or let nature take its course? When we talk to each other or to non-scientists, these conversations can get real fraught!
@wbtd And it's in part because our language echoes other conversations that both do and do not have relevance to forest responses to climate change.
@scisus if you find some nice writings, I'd be happy to hear about with an @
isn't that historically consistent at least in germany? i am reminded of the fascist roots of "naturschutz" for example.
Shawna Gordon-McKeon has some refs in her Hardin vs Ostrom talk on the commons for libreplanet 2019
will try to dig up a link at some point when not just on mobile
Looks like it, yes.
Doesn't spend a lot of time on Hardin so maybe not so helpful, unless you didn't have that in hand already.
Then it's huge, I guess?
@deejoe Yeah, I know all about Hardin and lose my bananas every time someone says "tragedy of the commons"
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